Sunlit Water

February 14, 2007

A Valentine Of One’s Own

Filed under: Sex — by teofilo @ 8:18 pm

In the course of an interesting Unfogged thread about literary representations of male and female sexuality, Charlie Whitaker quoted a bit from a Nicholson Baker novel including the following:

Any woman masturbates anywhere, I want to know about it. No woman is anything but beautiful when she is masturbating

This caused m. leblanc to ask if anyone thought it rang true (it’s apparently not entirely serious), and no one responded that it did, although the actual responses seem to focus more on the form than on the content.  I, however, find the idea resonates very strongly with me, to the extent that I can definitely imagine myself saying something very similar.

I find it hard to express the intensity of the hold female masturbation has on my erotic imagination.  I suspect it’s tied up with a lot of other stuff about gender and bodies, but there’s a fascination there that seems to defy my best efforts to explain it.  It may well be one of those things about (certain kinds of) male sexuality that women find totally alien.

I had a friend in high school who once said that if he were a woman he would do nothing but masturbate in front of a mirror all day.  The girls who heard him say that were, quite understandably, a little weirded out, and it was definitely inappropriate (though totally in character) for him to say it, but I understood what he was getting at.  It seems so graceful and elegant, especially compared to the awkward jerking we have to do.  If I had the opportunity to do that, of course I’d take it as often as possible.

I try not to think about this stuff too much these days, because it’s kind of depressing, but seeing that Baker quote and the response to it inspired me to mention it.  It’s a data point for the discussion of ways to express the experience of sexuality, at least.

13 Comments »

  1. I had just been thinking about The Love Letter as possibly an interesting response to the original question, are there any books that help men understand women’s sexuality? Although the real reason I was thinking about the book was because I kind of wanted to dig up my copy to find the adolescent poem that Helen discovers, in reference to the discussion in the thread linked here.

    Comment by Matt W — February 14, 2007 @ 9:55 pm |Reply

  2. Suggested post title: A Valentine to One’s Self

    Comment by Armsmasher — February 15, 2007 @ 10:51 am |Reply

  3. I think men can’t get enough of hearing that women enjoy sex. Why, women like it so much they’ll even do it by themselves!

    Comment by Megan — February 15, 2007 @ 11:13 am |Reply

  4. So will you read Nicholson Baker now? While eating apricots?

    Comment by ac — February 15, 2007 @ 3:36 pm |Reply

  5. I had a friend in high school who once said that if he were a woman he would do nothing but masturbate in front of a mirror all day.

    I think every one of us either had or was that friend in high school.

    Comment by mrh — February 15, 2007 @ 4:48 pm |Reply

  6. 3: I can’t speak for other men, but yeah, that’s pretty much it.

    4: No.

    Comment by teofilo — February 15, 2007 @ 4:52 pm |Reply

  7. I second you, Teo, for what it’s worth.

    Comment by X. Trapnel — February 18, 2007 @ 2:13 am |Reply

  8. I second you, Teo, for what it’s worth.

    Sad, almost, given that the poor lad is firsting himself.

    Comment by Stanley — February 21, 2007 @ 1:13 am |Reply

  9. I don’t even understand that.

    Comment by teofilo — February 21, 2007 @ 1:23 am |Reply

  10. It was a very bad and ill-advised attempt at a jerking-off joke. Can I be banned now?

    Comment by Stanley — February 21, 2007 @ 1:30 am |Reply

  11. No, your punishment is to not be banned. Revel in the awkwardness! Revel, I say!

    Comment by teofilo — February 21, 2007 @ 1:42 am |Reply

  12. [Revels. Gazes at navel. Revels some more. Gazes at navel again…]

    Comment by Stanley — February 21, 2007 @ 1:52 am |Reply

  13. When I was ten years old I had my first orgasm this way! I was standing in front of a full length mirror. Through my teens I continued to do this and would even “dress up” for myself in short skirts and high heels and low cut tops. Now that I’ve gotten older and gotten stretch marks it doesn’t work anymore. Heh.

    Comment by Em — March 28, 2007 @ 12:41 pm |Reply


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